for many families, not only in my city, but across our state, a couple of thousands dollars could be the difference between making that mortgage payment being able to afford food and making critical investments during every month. the desire for washington to figure this out and not to cause more harm, like they did during the last debt ceiling debate is absolutely krusk. this is not time for the republicans to hold the country hostage again, really at this point, holding it hostage to protect a couple of percent of our population. >> schieffer: well, i mean, the democrats -- there's got to be some give in there from democrats as well? >> i think you're absolutely right. something frightening to me mee which the two gentlemen mentioned. i have seen health care costs mushroom in this country and have seen the impact on the community like mine. it is projected to go to 20% of g.d.p. we have to do things controlling these costs, or forget event next 10, 20 years we'll see america's global economic decline. they're absolutely right about the urgency. but i think the president really has